Seemingly, Crispin Porter + Bogusky Can Do No Wrong

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It's completely dickish to imply that Crispin didn't conceive Sub Chicken. In Barbarian's own words: "of course we didn't dream it up... we were just fortunate enough to have been involved."

Furthermore, Crispin has broke plenty of ground since then: Virgin Atlantic, Molson, Truth, VW (Safe Happens at the very least). I'm sure there's more. The Coke Zero and BK freakout ideas were pretty brilliant too.

And if your tired point is that Crispin is overrated, you're just stoking the fire. Those guys decided a long time ago that advertising isn't about art, it's about fame. And they've championed that idea better than anyone.

hey previous poster: the coke zero and bk freakout were the same ideas esecuted the same way. and folgers coffee did hidden camera spots in the 80's. cpb is now becoming "famous" for having once done good work.

OK, semantic difference on the word "created." yea, CPB came up with the concept. Barbarian made the whole thing work. Only reason I mentioned it was becasue, for a long time, no one wanted to acknowledge Barbarian's involvement.

And what else is Barbarian (or any company) going to say? Do you think they are going to bite the hand that feeds them? No.

And by saying "hasn't done anything truly groundbreaking does not, by any means, imply they haven't done any good work. Of course they have. And if you want to measure success by how many brands willingly hand their business to an agency then, hands down, CPB is at the top of the pile.

Advertising never was (or never should be) art. Any smart agency knows this. Agencies creates work that sells shit, not work that hangs on the wall in an art museum.

CPB deciding long ago "that advertising isn't about art" is (or should) simply be the status quo line of thinking of any good agency. It was never about making art. However, if along the way, and agency happens to craft something to beautiful and so wonderful it could be considered art, than great. But it's purpose is still to sell shit.

Aside from all of this, you're right. I am a dick. If I wasn't, why would anyone read Adrants?

By the way, how's the Boulder office doing? ;)

I love it when folks leave anonymous comments and then act holier than thou. As for CPB, yes they have done some nice stuff, but they are overrated.
As for the Zune, no Ad agency can make a turd smell like roses. :-)

I'll just step over this chicken conversation, but I do think it's fair to say the BK XBox game was pretty awesome. That, I think, qualified for groundbreaking status.

The Subserviant Chicken was a lift from a Beer.com site two years previous to the Chicken.
A barmaid type of girl was leaning against the bar and when you typed in commands she did them. Some of the best were when you typed in "Star Wars" and she pulls out a light saber and takes on Darth Vader. Sure all the obvious ones for a big breasted hottie were obvious, like jumping jacks and jump up and down, but finding the gems like "Gorilla" and "Karate" made it awesome.
Nice pull Crispin.
And the Seinfeld shit was awful on every level

@Subservient Fraud - No offense, but a quick google search reveals the launch dates of both of these items: The chicken launched in april of 2004 (http://www.barbariangroup.com/portfolio/burger_king_subservient_chicken) and virtual bartender seems to be later that year: (http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=virtual+bartender+beer.com&btnG=Search&hl=en&um=1)

I am glad some one dated the two above, and cleared that up. As for working on Zune related work... I produced and handled design direction for (http://www.zunejourney.net) while at a digital production shop working on behalf of McCann SF. We all pretty much knew there was no sense in trying to compete with the iPod but rather, just try to define a space for the Zune in the marketplace.

My point being is that Sony DEFINED the Walkman/Discman, yet to this day there is plenty of room for knock-offs, coat-tail riders, and competitors on the shelves.

today's challenge: compare the dominos poll feature on their website when you order a pizza online and the BK poll-arizer facebook app.

i bet you will find the same execution sold to two quick service/fast food clients from the same agency... brilliant from a "no need to reinvent the wheel" standpoint... surprising that an agency can get away with it within the same category.

discuss.

And the less said about MINI the better...

:)

I bought a Zune since it was a little cheaper. I love their marketing and software which includes dj lists and social networking. The Zune Originals site is dope. The downside was the everlasting scrolling and the upside was that it had a radio and e-mail. The packaging was also very stylish. It got stolen, and my phone broke, so I got an iphone to replace it. Which, of course, I am delighted with.